How to Reduce Cloud Costs Without Sacrificing Performance ft. Jason Ward, C.H. Robinson | Ep #64
Why are your cloud costs so high and what actually fixes them?
In this episode of FinOps in Action, I sit down with Jason Ward, Lead FinOps Practitioner at C.H. Robinson, to break down how to take control of cloud spend without slowing down engineering.
Jason shares how he went from mechanic to FinOps leader, built a FinOps function from scratch, and uncovered massive savings, including a 90% cost reduction from a single optimization.
We also cover how to work with engineers (not against them), why most cost recommendations fail, and what it really takes to build a sustainable FinOps practice.
Here’s what we talked about:
- How to cut cloud costs without impacting performance
- Why data, not recommendations should drive decisions
- How to get engineers to actually buy into FinOps
- The importance of tagging and cost visibility early on
- When NOT to optimize and why some “waste” is intentional
- How AI is changing cloud spend and what to watch out for
Chapters:
00:00 - Why Engineers Ignore Small Savings
01:45 - From Mechanic to Cloud Engineer
03:48 - Discovering Cloud Cost Impact
04:48 - Starting FinOps at CH Robinson
06:17 - Early Wins VM Right Sizing
07:19 - Handling Engineer Pushback
09:51 - Tooling Shift to Datadog
11:12 - AKS Tuning 90 Percent Savings
13:15 - Building a Real FinOps Program
14:29 - Executive Buy In and Chargeback
17:38 - Kubernetes Scaling and Hybrid Costs
24:31 - AI Spend and Career Wrap Up
Quote of the Show:
- “Without that executive buy-in… most engineers… don’t care so much about the bottom line.” – Jason Ward
Links:
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jward2/
- Website: https://www.chrobinson.com/en-us/
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